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	<title>Comments on: Pepe&#8217;s Dhoom-2 Collection; And when you should probably lie to me</title>
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		<title>By: Nikhil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikhil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shefaly: Heh...Arjun's mother is one of my personal heroes. :) Frankly, I don't know what Hrithik embodies; I've never really given movie stars or rockstars much thought.

&lt;i&gt;what compels people to fill all their waking hours with music, surfing, watching TV? What about those moments when one would ‘only stand and stare’?&lt;/i&gt;

In one word - Stimulation. I constantly crave intellectual stimulation, until it tires me out. Even off-line moments, the kind where you stop and think, are moments of stimulation or reactions to stimulation. We are products of our experiences. At least among those who write blogs, many of which you consider rubbish, blogs are just spaces for putting out their thoughts in words.

Of course there are conversations, arguments and disagreements online, in the broader context of the world. As a blogger/forumer, you're voicing your opinion, and exposing yourself to criticism from anyone/anywhere. If you're looking for academic level validation of facts, online, then you're mistaken. Half-baked though many opinions might be, illogical though their reasoning might be - it exists online and offline. In fact, how much of an opportunity do these people actually get to discuss a lot of issues offline? Instead of thinking for themselves, a lot of them passively consume the information they are fed - once put online, there can be debates and discussions. In fact, beyond a point, they themselves tend to start thinking more about what they're posting about (I did!). I would say that forums with their trolls, and blogs with their commenters actually can improve reasoning. What I worry most about is herd mentality, and I think it exists in the Indian blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shefaly: Heh&#8230;Arjun&#8217;s mother is one of my personal heroes. :) Frankly, I don&#8217;t know what Hrithik embodies; I&#8217;ve never really given movie stars or rockstars much thought.</p>
<p><i>what compels people to fill all their waking hours with music, surfing, watching TV? What about those moments when one would ‘only stand and stare’?</i></p>
<p>In one word - Stimulation. I constantly crave intellectual stimulation, until it tires me out. Even off-line moments, the kind where you stop and think, are moments of stimulation or reactions to stimulation. We are products of our experiences. At least among those who write blogs, many of which you consider rubbish, blogs are just spaces for putting out their thoughts in words.</p>
<p>Of course there are conversations, arguments and disagreements online, in the broader context of the world. As a blogger/forumer, you&#8217;re voicing your opinion, and exposing yourself to criticism from anyone/anywhere. If you&#8217;re looking for academic level validation of facts, online, then you&#8217;re mistaken. Half-baked though many opinions might be, illogical though their reasoning might be - it exists online and offline. In fact, how much of an opportunity do these people actually get to discuss a lot of issues offline? Instead of thinking for themselves, a lot of them passively consume the information they are fed - once put online, there can be debates and discussions. In fact, beyond a point, they themselves tend to start thinking more about what they&#8217;re posting about (I did!). I would say that forums with their trolls, and blogs with their commenters actually can improve reasoning. What I worry most about is herd mentality, and I think it exists in the Indian blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikhil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi: No kidding - Riya Sen and Celina Jaitley actually have fans? I think one needs to differentiate between fans and horny teenagers. Or do you mean that they actually have fans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakshi: No kidding - Riya Sen and Celina Jaitley actually have fans? I think one needs to differentiate between fans and horny teenagers. Or do you mean that they actually have fans?</p>
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		<title>By: Sakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so hard to believe? ;)

If bimbos like Riya Sen and Celina Jetley can have fans, then why not Rakhi? A typical double standard mentality...I say. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so hard to believe? ;)</p>
<p>If bimbos like Riya Sen and Celina Jetley can have fans, then why not Rakhi? A typical double standard mentality&#8230;I say. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikhil, I thought it was Arjun... :-) You would notice his star-struck behaviour but his mother is a marketer, who was once quoted saying Hrithik embodies everything **** stands for! True. I am not making this up.

Just a thought, sotto voce, on "Get so tired of being online sometimes that I just lie down, put on some old cricket/football match or any movie, and just watch it for the sake of watching":

Call me old-fashioned but I fail to understand what compels people to fill all their waking hours with music, surfing, watching TV? What about those moments when one would 'only stand and stare'?

If there are no off-line moments, how would one reflect on the random thoughts in one's head? Make sense of odd observations and their possible causation? Listen to the sounds of silence (including in case of some people, inside their heads or well that is why they fill every moment??)? Actually have a real conversation? Think?

No wonder, most of the blogs and much other online content are plain rubbish to read.

The individual's self-absorbed life means more and more self-referencing without any conversations to sharpen one's point through disagreement or challenge, without framing them in a broader context of the world whose collective behaviour may be showing that the individual has got it all wrong, without verifying the validity of those views (I use the term in an academic sense not in the sense of filtering for some kind of moral or social acceptability), without worrying about consistency/ logical reasoning/ comparative framing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikhil, I thought it was Arjun&#8230; :-) You would notice his star-struck behaviour but his mother is a marketer, who was once quoted saying Hrithik embodies everything **** stands for! True. I am not making this up.</p>
<p>Just a thought, sotto voce, on &#8220;Get so tired of being online sometimes that I just lie down, put on some old cricket/football match or any movie, and just watch it for the sake of watching&#8221;:</p>
<p>Call me old-fashioned but I fail to understand what compels people to fill all their waking hours with music, surfing, watching TV? What about those moments when one would &#8216;only stand and stare&#8217;?</p>
<p>If there are no off-line moments, how would one reflect on the random thoughts in one&#8217;s head? Make sense of odd observations and their possible causation? Listen to the sounds of silence (including in case of some people, inside their heads or well that is why they fill every moment??)? Actually have a real conversation? Think?</p>
<p>No wonder, most of the blogs and much other online content are plain rubbish to read.</p>
<p>The individual&#8217;s self-absorbed life means more and more self-referencing without any conversations to sharpen one&#8217;s point through disagreement or challenge, without framing them in a broader context of the world whose collective behaviour may be showing that the individual has got it all wrong, without verifying the validity of those views (I use the term in an academic sense not in the sense of filtering for some kind of moral or social acceptability), without worrying about consistency/ logical reasoning/ comparative framing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikhil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi: See, this is exactly what this post is all about - not only did I not know that Rakhi Sawant has a huge fan base, I find it hard to believe. I'm not sure if I should run the risk of asking you why you're fan. *grin*

Shefaly: I'm guess 'star struck' isn't the right word then. What then? A fan, I suppose. The nephew I referred to, incidentally, is Arjun. :)
Being self referential while blogging is fine. For an observer and a reader, it gives a personal insight, builds credibility and promotes discussion. I just think that by being self referential in analysing trends, I'm being myopic.  It becomes limiting, then.

Rhymebawd: Not sure if it is ironic...happens to me sometimes too. Get so tired of being online sometimes that I just lie down, put on some old cricket/football match or any movie, and just watch it for the sake of watching.

So...I find user generated content more entertaining than most of what is on TV. At the same time, I don't want to go through every UGC clip on YouTube before I find something that I like. I might go for the most popular, but it's not necessary that I will like it. Frankly, beyond a point, I'll get tired of having to make a choice. So, what's the solution? Have a show with selections by editors, and spare me the bother. In fact, that's a business model for you - if you can go through hundreds of clips and think you can make an editorial decision on content that people will like - start a blog.
umm...more on UGC &lt;a href=http://www.contentsutra.com/entry/weekend-reading-on-user-generated-content-and-future-trends/ rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakshi: See, this is exactly what this post is all about - not only did I not know that Rakhi Sawant has a huge fan base, I find it hard to believe. I&#8217;m not sure if I should run the risk of asking you why you&#8217;re fan. *grin*</p>
<p>Shefaly: I&#8217;m guess &#8217;star struck&#8217; isn&#8217;t the right word then. What then? A fan, I suppose. The nephew I referred to, incidentally, is Arjun. :)<br />
Being self referential while blogging is fine. For an observer and a reader, it gives a personal insight, builds credibility and promotes discussion. I just think that by being self referential in analysing trends, I&#8217;m being myopic.  It becomes limiting, then.</p>
<p>Rhymebawd: Not sure if it is ironic&#8230;happens to me sometimes too. Get so tired of being online sometimes that I just lie down, put on some old cricket/football match or any movie, and just watch it for the sake of watching.</p>
<p>So&#8230;I find user generated content more entertaining than most of what is on TV. At the same time, I don&#8217;t want to go through every UGC clip on YouTube before I find something that I like. I might go for the most popular, but it&#8217;s not necessary that I will like it. Frankly, beyond a point, I&#8217;ll get tired of having to make a choice. So, what&#8217;s the solution? Have a show with selections by editors, and spare me the bother. In fact, that&#8217;s a business model for you - if you can go through hundreds of clips and think you can make an editorial decision on content that people will like - start a blog.<br />
umm&#8230;more on UGC <a href=http://www.contentsutra.com/entry/weekend-reading-on-user-generated-content-and-future-trends/ rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rhymebawd</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhymebawd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol @ "still want passive entertainment instead of having to choose what to watch/do online." You do get the irony there, hmm?

Happy new year and all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol @ &#8220;still want passive entertainment instead of having to choose what to watch/do online.&#8221; You do get the irony there, hmm?</p>
<p>Happy new year and all :)</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further, I think that little nephews aside, amongst adults only those are star-struck who have the dullest sense of creative imagination and originality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further, I think that little nephews aside, amongst adults only those are star-struck who have the dullest sense of creative imagination and originality.</p>
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		<title>By: Shefaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shefaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikhil, interesting to see you quietly (sheepishly?) admitting that self-referencing is not such a great thing, considering you told me there was nothing wrong with it when I whined about too much of it going on, a few weeks ago ;-)

That said, if you see Amartya Sen, make sure William Dalrymple isn't around. He is apparently so star-struck with Amartya Sen that he doesn't let him  speak, as I noticed at a talk couple years ago in London about his book 'The Argumentative Indian'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikhil, interesting to see you quietly (sheepishly?) admitting that self-referencing is not such a great thing, considering you told me there was nothing wrong with it when I whined about too much of it going on, a few weeks ago ;-)</p>
<p>That said, if you see Amartya Sen, make sure William Dalrymple isn&#8217;t around. He is apparently so star-struck with Amartya Sen that he doesn&#8217;t let him  speak, as I noticed at a talk couple years ago in London about his book &#8216;The Argumentative Indian&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Nikhil Pahwa what is so amusing in learning the Ms. Sawant has a fan or more aptly a huge fan base?

Maybe you still ain't versed with her Stardom!!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Nikhil Pahwa what is so amusing in learning the Ms. Sawant has a fan or more aptly a huge fan base?</p>
<p>Maybe you still ain&#8217;t versed with her Stardom!!  ;)</p>
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